On the 3rd of December 2022, the EBP held its Clinical Seminar for section directors and members of the School. The EBP - São Paulo Section cartel, responsible for this VIth meeting was Carmen Silvia Cervelatti, who presented the case, Fernando Prota, Milena V. Crastelo, Patricia Badari and Rômulo Ferreira da Silva (Plus-one). Simone Souto animated the conversation. The conversation focused on the status of the phallus and the function of transitory phobia in some cases. Also, on how to think about the device of the cartel in what it teaches us about the construction of the clinical case.