Blanca Musachi interviewed Oscar Ventura about the round-table on the presentation of Seminar 6, "Desire and its Interpretation", about his testimony of the Pass and his participation in the conversation on the "Proposition of October 9..." on the occasion of the 12th Congress of the EBP which took place April 27th to 30th entitled "Desire and Authorization" in Inhotim, Minas Gerais, Brazil.