Gleuza Salomon, colleague and collaborator of Radio Lacan in Brazil speaks with Angelina Harari, Fernando Coutinho, Jésus Santiago, Luiz Fernando Carrijo da Cunha and Ram Avraham Mandil, about the Forum of the Movida Zadig entitled: "Rule of Law and Corruption, the Real of Psychoanalysis is our Currency" which was held on August 18th with the participation of Marie Hélène Brousse and Brazilian colleagues along with lawyers, journalists, artists, scientists and politicians. The Movida Zadig (Zero Abjection Democratic International Group) is a network of psychoanalysis aimed at politics, which was created by Jacques-Alain Miller on May 14th 2017, which in Brazil is entitled "Sweets & Barbarians" and is coordinated by Jésus Santiago.